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paulwl
User ID: 9272753 Aug 7th 11:37 AM
A lovely early 26M Connqueror alto in "good playing condition"...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=898229501

...with NO NECK.

"This is an ultra rare find."

Yes. Almost all 26Ms have necks.

(I dunno, what would it cost to have Karsten Gloger custom-make one? It might be worth it considering what a missing neck does to resale value.)

Jack W.
User ID: 1898874 Aug 7th 11:54 AM
At least they actually said there's no neck, as opposed to 300 carefully taken pictures without ever mentioning it. :)

OnyxSax
User ID: 2024664 Aug 7th 12:38 PM
How can they tell if it is "good playing condition"?

paulwl
User ID: 9272753 Aug 7th 1:04 PM
Do a Roland Kirk and lip-buzz down the tenon?

Hey, it's a kind of "playing"...

Lost Lamb
User ID: 1543764 Aug 7th 1:49 PM
wow, I only read this thread because I thought it was about SOTW.
Then I realized you meant ebay...
Same diff.

Jack W.
User ID: 9530533 Aug 7th 2:35 PM
Now now, you're getting positively cynical on us there LL. :)

Lost Lamb
User ID: 1543764 Aug 7th 2:52 PM
am I right?

Innocent Bystander
User ID: 8325843 Aug 7th 4:42 PM
We have the technology, LL.
We can rebuild it.

super20dan
User ID: 0255034 Aug 7th 5:16 PM
the reserve is pretty high for no neck. would a 6m neck work? i know a 10m neck will work on a 30m

paulwl
User ID: 1961724 Aug 7th 9:51 PM
You see, that's the kicker. The horn is from the transitional era when Conn was changing neck tapers a lot, and all the data has long since been lost.

A neck from a 6M a few hundred units away might be a safe bet, but no way to be sure. You would definitely be buying a pig in a poke here.

saxpics
User ID: 0053014 Aug 9th 10:57 AM
I'm suprised no one's noticed the line in the ad that says: "... the horn is in good playing condition." Things that make you go hmmm ...

paulwl, I was under the impression that the 26M used a variation of the VIII neck. What sayest thou?

Anyhow, I heard that bottom-line Gloger necks are around $350 (http://www.gloger-handkraft.com/), so if this 26M doesn't get above the $200 range, it might be a great buy. I think I'd wanna talk to the Gloger folks, first!

How high is the reserve, super20dan?

Take care, all!
Pete
saxpics@hotmail.com

super20dan
User ID: 0255034 Aug 9th 5:08 PM
not shure but last time it was listed it got bid up to close to 500$ and reserve wasnt met. i sort of wanted this horn but not at that price w/out neck and not shure if my 6m neck would work

paulwl
User ID: 9272753 Aug 9th 5:28 PM
saxpics wrote:
>> I'm suprised no one's noticed the line in the ad that says: "... the horn is in good playing condition." <<

I'm surprised you didn't notice anyone HAD noticed.

>> paulwl, I was under the impression that the 26M used a variation of the VIII neck. What sayest thou? <<

Too early. VIIIs don't come in till about #277k; this is #272k. This is the transitional period when you see strange letters, stamps, etc. (ST'D'D, M, METRO, N, NAT'L, A, AN) on Conn altos. So AFAIK, anything goes.

paulwl User ID: 9272753	Aug 7th 11:37 AM A lovely early 26M Connqueror alto in "good playing condition"... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=898229501 ...with NO NECK. "This is an ultra rare find." Yes. Almost all 26Ms have necks. (I dunno, what would it cost to have Karsten Gloger custom-make one? It might be worth it considering what a missing neck does to resale value.)
Jack W. User ID: 1898874	Aug 7th 11:54 AM At least they actually said there's no neck, as opposed to 300 carefully taken pictures without ever mentioning it. :)
OnyxSax User ID: 2024664	Aug 7th 12:38 PM How can they tell if it is "good playing condition"?
paulwl User ID: 9272753	Aug 7th 1:04 PM Do a Roland Kirk and lip-buzz down the tenon? Hey, it's a kind of "playing"...
Lost Lamb User ID: 1543764	Aug 7th 1:49 PM wow, I only read this thread because I thought it was about SOTW. Then I realized you meant ebay... Same diff.
Jack W. User ID: 9530533	Aug 7th 2:35 PM Now now, you're getting positively cynical on us there LL. :)
Lost Lamb User ID: 1543764	Aug 7th 2:52 PM am I right?
Innocent Bystander User ID: 8325843	Aug 7th 4:42 PM We have the technology, LL. We can rebuild it.
super20dan User ID: 0255034	Aug 7th 5:16 PM the reserve is pretty high for no neck. would a 6m neck work? i know a 10m neck will work on a 30m
paulwl User ID: 1961724	Aug 7th 9:51 PM You see, that's the kicker. The horn is from the transitional era when Conn was changing neck tapers a lot, and all the data has long since been lost. A neck from a 6M a few hundred units away might be a safe bet, but no way to be sure. You would definitely be buying a pig in a poke here.
saxpics User ID: 0053014	Aug 9th 10:57 AM I'm suprised no one's noticed the line in the ad that says: "... the horn is in good playing condition." Things that make you go hmmm ... paulwl, I was under the impression that the 26M used a variation of the VIII neck. What sayest thou? Anyhow, I heard that bottom-line Gloger necks are around $350 (http://www.gloger-handkraft.com/), so if this 26M doesn't get above the $200 range, it might be a great buy. I think I'd wanna talk to the Gloger folks, first! How high is the reserve, super20dan? Take care, all! Pete saxpics@hotmail.com
super20dan User ID: 0255034	Aug 9th 5:08 PM not shure but last time it was listed it got bid up to close to 500$ and reserve wasnt met. i sort of wanted this horn but not at that price w/out neck and not shure if my 6m neck would work
paulwl User ID: 9272753	Aug 9th 5:28 PM saxpics wrote: >> I'm suprised no one's noticed the line in the ad that says: "... the horn is in good playing condition." << I'm surprised you didn't notice anyone HAD noticed. >> paulwl, I was under the impression that the 26M used a variation of the VIII neck. What sayest thou? << Too early. VIIIs don't come in till about #277k; this is #272k. This is the transitional period when you see strange letters, stamps, etc. (ST'D'D, M, METRO, N, NAT'L, A, AN) on Conn altos. So AFAIK, anything goes.