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mostly alto guy
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Sep 12th 12:55 PM
I have an oppoertunity to purchase a really good condition one at what seems like a good price. Anyone have any experience or know what one in great shape might be worth?
saxpics
User ID: 9454293
Sep 12th 12:58 PM
See my comments under "Buffet Saxophone SN 187"
mostly alto guy
User ID: 0122954
Sep 12th 3:53 PM
This has to be a Dynaction I'd say. Thanks for the great pictures on your website and your earlier post. Serial is 2xxx.

The horn looks darn near perfect, lacquer and all, and is claimed to be original finish. Gorgeous horn, but how would it compare soundwise to an S1?

MBushaw
User ID: 9600383
Sep 12th 6:42 PM
MAG- The SDA has a darker, more complex sound than the S1. The S1 may be a louder horn. The keywork should be very light and fast, even when compared to the S1. Some have said the low C# is difficult, but I believe that is just an adjustment issue. The body should be stronger and more dent-resistant than the S1. They really are very good horns and I would probably still pick an SDA over a MkVI in similar condition, just like I did in 1973 when both were new (my first pro alto). Unless the VI was one of the really great ones....
mag
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Sep 12th 11:11 PM
Thanks, Mark. I don't want to pay too much for this horn, so what would you consider a fair price, sight unseen, for an original Dynaction (not an SDA) in "excellent" playing condition with near perfect lacquer? Is $1000 too much?
stevew
User ID: 8868883
Sep 13th 8:40 AM
Price - probably fair, though they (and S1s and SDAs) sometimes go for that or less. Is this an alto or tenor? I have had both a S1 and SDA tenor; the SDA had more wallop in the bottom end and a good solid muscular sound. The S1 was much sweeter and didn't project as well, in fact not well enough, really. Only played an S1 alto, similarly sweet, but it projected fine too.
stevew
User ID: 8868883
Sep 13th 8:42 AM
Oh yes, and just be absolutely sure it is not a lovely (not) Evette Schaeffer job with two octave keys. I got caught with one of those before I knew better.
mostly alto guy
User ID: 0122954
Sep 13th 9:17 AM
It's an alto, definitely a Dynaction, and in apparently beautiful condition. Even the neck appears nearly 100% lacquer. The pictures I have are big and clear, so they show plenty of detail. I get the feeling the seller is on the up and up.

This could make a nice complement to my S1 and the S3 I have coming. I guess I'm really kind of hooked on Buffet altos.

BTW, I've acquired a Vandoren V5 A28, and it is perfect with the S1. I didn't know this horn was as good as the A28 makes it. So, many thanks for that advice. Haven't had a chance yet to spend quality time with the A28 on my JK, but the weekend is here....should work well on this DA if I go for it.

danmcb
User ID: 8506593
Sep 13th 9:19 AM
MAG ... would that be from a guy out on the east side of Brussels? (don't worry, I'm not interested .. ;-)
mostly alto guy
User ID: 0122954
Sep 13th 9:23 AM
It's an alto, definitely a Dynaction, and in apparently beautiful condition. Even the neck appears nearly 100% lacquer. The pictures I have are big and clear, so they show plenty of detail. I get the feeling the seller is on the up and up.

This could make a nice complement to my S1 and the S3 I have coming. I guess I'm really kind of hooked on Buffet altos.

BTW, I've acquired a Vandoren V5 A28, and it is perfect with the S1. I didn't know this horn was as good as the A28 makes it. So, many thanks for that advice. Haven't had a chance yet to spend quality time with the A28 on my JK, but the weekend is here....should work well on this DA if I go for it.

mostly alto guy
User ID: 0122954
Sep 13th 9:24 AM
dan, this one is in the US.

And it's mine, mine, all mine!

If I email the guy back and say I want it.

What to do???
danmcb
User ID: 8506593
Sep 13th 9:26 AM
email the guy back and say you want it - if you have the cash, and the price is good, why not!
mostly alto guy
User ID: 0122954
Sep 13th 9:35 AM
I have until tomorrow night to decide. The cash is a non-problem. I like simple and logical advice. Thanks, dan.

Now go outside and enjoy this great late summer weather. How much are we gonna have here?
danmcb
User ID: 8506593
Sep 13th 9:38 AM
mag, lets chat by email if you like ... I'm at work so don't want to post - what's yours?
mostly alto guy
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Sep 13th 9:46 AM
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mostly alto guy
User ID: 0122954
Sep 25th 12:54 PM
Is anyone surprised if I say I bought this horn. It's truly mint. Hardly a mark on the lacquer anywhere, and normal wear seems to be limited to the high F key. Soft parts need to be replaced soon (neck cork is severely compressed), and that notoriously fussy octave mech needs tweaking, but this horn plays nicely down to low E or D. Below that it sometimes gurgles, but I'm sure that is from the leaky neck cork and the octave keys.

The keywork is nice and fast, and quite comfortable. The sound is incredibly dark and rich. If the serial number charts I've seen are correct, this horn was built in 1952, and would be the fifth Dynaction built that year. Does anyone know exactly when Dynaction production started?