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Andres
User ID: 1139804 Jan 24th 5:11 PM
Just curious how the Evette models from Buffet-Crampon stack up to other student/intermediate horns?

I tried one maybe 10 years ago and it didn't seem like anything special to me, but things can change.

Thanks.

Andres
User ID: 1139804 Jan 25th 9:44 AM
Just to clarify,

I've been seeing a few around in pawn shops, and a few play okay, but need work (rusting octave keys, bad pads, etc). I know that the new ones are built in Taiwan, but I'm pretty sure theses are older models.

Just wanted some opinions.

Thanks again.

stevew
User ID: 0032624 Feb 4th 6:52 AM
Not the best student saxes; the older ones are morel likely Eastern Europe and best avoided. When you think it costs as much to overhaul one of these a s a pro sax, unless you either get it for next to nothing, or find one in good playing order, then they are not a good buy; lets say its costs $300 to buy and the same to overhaul, you could get a fine playing Yamaha or old Conn or similar or loads of better options! Even a new taiwanes horn is likely to be a better buy.

soprano player
User ID: 1669454 Feb 4th 6:57 AM
MY student has one. He can't play it in tune.
I play it, I can't play it in tune... *sigh*

Andres
User ID: 9001673 Feb 4th 12:20 PM
I've been in the mood for an inexpensive alto...

I've also seen a few on Ebay recently, and I'm thinking of picking one up (newer one). I've got an old YAS23 in the closet, so I'm thinking that it should compare to that, yeah?

Plus I figure that it's a better bet than an no-name Asian clone student/intermediate model.

Lowell
User ID: 9259363 Feb 6th 12:34 PM
Some of the older YAS-23s had rather soft rods and cup arms that bent easily. They required frequent service to keep the pads level. Newer models are much better in this respect. To go to anything less will most likely be an exercise in frustration. I suggest you keep the Yamaha until you can afford a good horn. If you truly enjoy playing, you will never be happy with a low quality instrument.

Andres
User ID: 9732463 Feb 6th 12:51 PM
Surely the French would never make a junky sax! :)

I'm tired of my Yamaha; I've had it about 15 years and it has served me faithfully, but I'm getting tired of it. I have an old Buffet alto that's decent, but now it's in desperate need of an overhaul and my tenor needs new pads.

So, I figured going from one student model to another wouldn't be *so* bad. I'd prefer a better horn (saw a Yamaha 52 in town for $400), but I'm cash-poor at the moment.

Maybe I'll amble down to the local WalMart for Musicians (MARS) and see what I can get on the pay-$50-a-month--for-the-rest-of-my-life plan.

Lowell
User ID: 9259363 Feb 7th 12:19 AM
I tried an old french Evette several years ago. It was in need of a repad but the notes that would play, had that rich dark tone that Buffets are famous for. If yours is not stamped "R.O.C." , It may be worth a repad. ( R.O.C. = Republic Of China = Taiwan ) Don't waste your time or money on the R.O.C. horn.

Andres User ID: 1139804	Jan 24th 5:11 PM Just curious how the Evette models from Buffet-Crampon stack up to other student/intermediate horns? I tried one maybe 10 years ago and it didn't seem like anything special to me, but things can change. Thanks.
Andres User ID: 1139804	Jan 25th 9:44 AM Just to clarify, I've been seeing a few around in pawn shops, and a few play okay, but need work (rusting octave keys, bad pads, etc). I know that the new ones are built in Taiwan, but I'm pretty sure theses are older models. Just wanted some opinions. Thanks again.
stevew User ID: 0032624	Feb 4th 6:52 AM Not the best student saxes; the older ones are morel likely Eastern Europe and best avoided. When you think it costs as much to overhaul one of these a s a pro sax, unless you either get it for next to nothing, or find one in good playing order, then they are not a good buy; lets say its costs $300 to buy and the same to overhaul, you could get a fine playing Yamaha or old Conn or similar or loads of better options! Even a new taiwanes horn is likely to be a better buy.
soprano player User ID: 1669454	Feb 4th 6:57 AM MY student has one. He can't play it in tune. I play it, I can't play it in tune... sigh
Andres User ID: 9001673	Feb 4th 12:20 PM I've been in the mood for an inexpensive alto... I've also seen a few on Ebay recently, and I'm thinking of picking one up (newer one). I've got an old YAS23 in the closet, so I'm thinking that it should compare to that, yeah? Plus I figure that it's a better bet than an no-name Asian clone student/intermediate model.
Lowell User ID: 9259363	Feb 6th 12:34 PM Some of the older YAS-23s had rather soft rods and cup arms that bent easily. They required frequent service to keep the pads level. Newer models are much better in this respect. To go to anything less will most likely be an exercise in frustration. I suggest you keep the Yamaha until you can afford a good horn. If you truly enjoy playing, you will never be happy with a low quality instrument.
Andres User ID: 9732463	Feb 6th 12:51 PM Surely the French would never make a junky sax! :) I'm tired of my Yamaha; I've had it about 15 years and it has served me faithfully, but I'm getting tired of it. I have an old Buffet alto that's decent, but now it's in desperate need of an overhaul and my tenor needs new pads. So, I figured going from one student model to another wouldn't be so bad. I'd prefer a better horn (saw a Yamaha 52 in town for $400), but I'm cash-poor at the moment. Maybe I'll amble down to the local WalMart for Musicians (MARS) and see what I can get on the pay-$50-a-month--for-the-rest-of-my-life plan.
Lowell User ID: 9259363	Feb 7th 12:19 AM I tried an old french Evette several years ago. It was in need of a repad but the notes that would play, had that rich dark tone that Buffets are famous for. If yours is not stamped "R.O.C." , It may be worth a repad. ( R.O.C. = Republic Of China = Taiwan ) Don't waste your time or money on the R.O.C. horn.