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manofsteel
User ID: 9084913 May 9th 7:20 PM
What stand do you cats like for a Bb Bari? The low A stand for my Yamaha when adjusted for the Bb is just too wobbly for my tastes.

Bones
User ID: 0345364 May 9th 10:35 PM
The K&M bari stand works best for a Bb bari. I don't like it for a low A bari, but it's the best I know for the Bb.

soreliprick
User ID: 0366544 May 9th 10:46 PM
i think mine is a Hamilton, but when I got it I had to relocate the bottom support up the leg about 2 inches to even get the #&*%#(^ thing to hold my old '37 Martin searchlight. Now, other than the top of the pipe where the wide top support is, which gets in the way of the lip of the bell, it works fine. All you need is a drill and a bit just larger than the screw and you'll be about as happy as I am with mine......

jmarshall83
User ID: 0826264 May 10th 12:32 AM
i second the motion fo k&m for low Bb horns

manofsteel
User ID: 9084913 May 10th 2:21 PM
Thanks, I'll check out the K&M

mark m.
User ID: 1195644 May 10th 2:23 PM
Any recommended supplier for these stands, or do they deal direct, or are they available at your nearest neighborhood music store?

manofsteel
User ID: 9084913 May 10th 3:28 PM
You can get them at the WW&BW. But you might wanna check with Steve G. He may give you a break on the price since you are getting a full OH from him.

manofsteel
User ID: 9084913 May 10th 3:31 PM
Okay, I found a picture of the K&M stand at http://www.k-m.de/D/Katalog/instrument/2index.asp?spr=EN

How does this differ from the other look-a-like stands? Is the main post that holds the bell shorter or something? Because the one I have for the Low A horn looks identical. The problem is, for the bow to properly rest on the foot, you have to pull the legs very close together, making the entire base too unstable.

Bones
User ID: 1307164 May 10th 4:13 PM
Manofsteel, the bari stand that K&M shows on their website is not the good stand that I was talking about. I hope the other one is still available. The good one for Bb horns is stainless steel. Very solid. There is a folding tripod base, but the horn is not supported by a leg. There is an adjustable double yoke that supports the bell and body. It is designed to be adjustable for both A and Bb horns, but I prefer this style only for Bb horns and prefer the now ubiquitous black tubular style for A horns.

I have a strong dislike for Hamilton bari stands. You have to clamp part of it to your bell. Ugh. And it's hard to slide back on the stand in a hurry. I know people who like to leave their horns on the stand while they play like Hamiltons, but I don't.

mark m.
User ID: 1195644 May 10th 5:17 PM
MOS - good suggestion re. Steve G. - thanks.

super20dan
User ID: 7705853 May 10th 5:43 PM
the hamilton is not for quick change artists

manofsteel
User ID: 9084913 May 13th 12:49 PM
Bones, any idea what model number this K&M stand you are referring to is? Any place you know that carries them?

Bones
User ID: 0345364 May 13th 9:15 PM
Unfortunately, no. My stand is stamped only "K&M Made in Germany."

I've actually purchased two of these, I think both from Woodwind & Brasswind. I loaned one to a friend and never got it back. So I bought a second one that I don't loan out. The first one was labelled in the WWBW catalog as "Woodwind Deluxe" as if it was their house brand. The second one was clearly identified as a K&M. The only differences between those two stands purchased several years apart were that the two yokes of the earlier were coated with rubber to protect the horn while the later one has something like velour on the same yokes. And, I think that the receiver at the top of the base on the earlier was metal, while the newer one is plastic. I would prefer the earlier one if it were available.

My concern is that with almost all mfgers only making low A bari's, and almost all players only buying low A bari's, that K&M may have discontinued this stand that works so well for Bb bari's. So, look for old stock or look for a used one. It really is a great Bb stand.

manofsteel
User ID: 9084913 May 14th 12:24 PM
Thanks Bones,

Any chance you could post some pictures of this stand? WW&BW sells a K&M stand but their online catalog doesn't have a picture to show which one it is.

manofsteel User ID: 9084913	May 9th 7:20 PM What stand do you cats like for a Bb Bari? The low A stand for my Yamaha when adjusted for the Bb is just too wobbly for my tastes.
Bones User ID: 0345364	May 9th 10:35 PM The K&M bari stand works best for a Bb bari. I don't like it for a low A bari, but it's the best I know for the Bb.
soreliprick User ID: 0366544	May 9th 10:46 PM i think mine is a Hamilton, but when I got it I had to relocate the bottom support up the leg about 2 inches to even get the #&*%#(^ thing to hold my old '37 Martin searchlight. Now, other than the top of the pipe where the wide top support is, which gets in the way of the lip of the bell, it works fine. All you need is a drill and a bit just larger than the screw and you'll be about as happy as I am with mine......
jmarshall83 User ID: 0826264	May 10th 12:32 AM i second the motion fo k&m for low Bb horns
manofsteel User ID: 9084913	May 10th 2:21 PM Thanks, I'll check out the K&M
mark m. User ID: 1195644	May 10th 2:23 PM Any recommended supplier for these stands, or do they deal direct, or are they available at your nearest neighborhood music store?
manofsteel User ID: 9084913	May 10th 3:28 PM You can get them at the WW&BW. But you might wanna check with Steve G. He may give you a break on the price since you are getting a full OH from him.
manofsteel User ID: 9084913	May 10th 3:31 PM Okay, I found a picture of the K&M stand at http://www.k-m.de/D/Katalog/instrument/2index.asp?spr=EN How does this differ from the other look-a-like stands? Is the main post that holds the bell shorter or something? Because the one I have for the Low A horn looks identical. The problem is, for the bow to properly rest on the foot, you have to pull the legs very close together, making the entire base too unstable.
Bones User ID: 1307164	May 10th 4:13 PM Manofsteel, the bari stand that K&M shows on their website is not the good stand that I was talking about. I hope the other one is still available. The good one for Bb horns is stainless steel. Very solid. There is a folding tripod base, but the horn is not supported by a leg. There is an adjustable double yoke that supports the bell and body. It is designed to be adjustable for both A and Bb horns, but I prefer this style only for Bb horns and prefer the now ubiquitous black tubular style for A horns. I have a strong dislike for Hamilton bari stands. You have to clamp part of it to your bell. Ugh. And it's hard to slide back on the stand in a hurry. I know people who like to leave their horns on the stand while they play like Hamiltons, but I don't.
mark m. User ID: 1195644	May 10th 5:17 PM MOS - good suggestion re. Steve G. - thanks.
super20dan User ID: 7705853	May 10th 5:43 PM the hamilton is not for quick change artists
manofsteel User ID: 9084913	May 13th 12:49 PM Bones, any idea what model number this K&M stand you are referring to is? Any place you know that carries them?
Bones User ID: 0345364	May 13th 9:15 PM Unfortunately, no. My stand is stamped only "K&M Made in Germany." I've actually purchased two of these, I think both from Woodwind & Brasswind. I loaned one to a friend and never got it back. So I bought a second one that I don't loan out. The first one was labelled in the WWBW catalog as "Woodwind Deluxe" as if it was their house brand. The second one was clearly identified as a K&M. The only differences between those two stands purchased several years apart were that the two yokes of the earlier were coated with rubber to protect the horn while the later one has something like velour on the same yokes. And, I think that the receiver at the top of the base on the earlier was metal, while the newer one is plastic. I would prefer the earlier one if it were available. My concern is that with almost all mfgers only making low A bari's, and almost all players only buying low A bari's, that K&M may have discontinued this stand that works so well for Bb bari's. So, look for old stock or look for a used one. It really is a great Bb stand.
manofsteel User ID: 9084913	May 14th 12:24 PM Thanks Bones, Any chance you could post some pictures of this stand? WW&BW sells a K&M stand but their online catalog doesn't have a picture to show which one it is.