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Big Nick
User ID: 9133663 Nov 10th 5:03 AM
Anyone got any suggestions for a mouthpiece/reed combination to go with my Yanag 900 that would give maximum volume and cutting power. I'm not interested in subtlety here, I can do that already.

super20dan
User ID: 8158483 Nov 10th 7:23 AM
dukoff is the brightest bari mpc i ever played

RS
User ID: 1766884 Nov 10th 1:40 PM
Maybe try a metal RIA with a .140" tip. And with some extra baffle (spoilers from Runyon Customs work well in RIAs) these pieces can really scream.

Bootman
User ID: 7601343 Nov 10th 2:09 PM
Lawton, Quantum (big tip opening) and even the Yani metals all play well. A Lamberson DD model is very good too.

Big Nick
User ID: 9133663 Nov 12th 11:22 AM
Thanks for the suggestions.
Christmas is coming up and I needed something for my wish list.
Unfortunately I don't know of anyone in the UK who stocks Lambersons. I had a Lawton for a few years ago but thought it rather bland. I tried a Dukoff a couple of months ago but couldn't get on with the shape of the tip. So I think I'll try a Quantum.

Subtone Sam
User ID: 1432154 Nov 12th 5:42 PM
Big Nick,what Lawton did you use on bari? I got one coming.I got one delrin Q for bari,good for R&B,especially with the spoiler but I prefer metal.

Big Nick
User ID: 9133663 Nov 12th 6:28 PM
Oh dear, you're asking me to use my memory. I think it was a metal 7BB. The sound was very clear and I used it in a quartet, dance band and concert band so presumably I thought it wasn't very outrageous.
No one complained, anyway. Like most of these things it's all a matter of personal preference and ultimately the Lawton didn't do much for me. I think I replaced it with a Rousseau Jazz 7 which I felt had more character.

Subtone Sam
User ID: 1432154 Nov 17th 9:41 AM
I received one Dukoff D7 for bari couple of days ago and I think its the best mpc for bari I´ve tried yet.Its bright but not too bright,easy to play,clear sound,great mpc.I´m also looking for a more rock-type sound with bari and this mpc works very well for that purpose.

Subtone Sam
User ID: 1432154 Nov 17th 4:56 PM
Few corrections here: I did some comparison between Dukoff D7 and Runyon delrin Q#14 (.124) (ex-Bootman) as I got some new reeds (LaVoz med.hard).
Dukoff played OK but bit ankward and thin,worked better with LaVoz mediums.Then I put LaVoz med.hard on the Quantum and the thing started to ROCK!! Great,huge sound! Big bottom end and loud! And very easy to play.I tried the spoiler but it was better without.I´ve never really liked the Q on tenor but on bari its really works great,just needs a bit harder reed.
Big Nick,try one of these;I´m sure you´ll like them.

Bootman
User ID: 7601343 Nov 18th 4:56 AM
Sam,
Glad that mpc is kicking for you. It really came to life for me with MH reeds too. No spoiler. Loud and resonant with a huge bottom end and an incredible altissimo too.

Martin
User ID: 2087514 Nov 18th 5:48 AM
Can't wait for the next Crowee* gig, the sound of a Conn bari at full throttle waaaay up high is sumfin else.
You had to be there.
Upmarket pub, Boot's band, nice girls, good visuals, good vibes, cold Aussie beer, no volume problems, and a crazy man playing bari.

* Crowee...short for Crows Nest.

Big Nick
User ID: 0018434 Nov 19th 11:35 AM
Thanks, Subtone. Unfortunately, I'll have to wait til Christmas (What! Another mouthpiece?). But my appetite is well and truly whetted.

Big Nick
User ID: 8841313 Nov 28th 3:06 PM
Anyone know who in the US will do online ordering of Quantums and ship to the UK? They seem to be a lot cheaper over there.

Bootman
User ID: 7601343 Nov 28th 3:31 PM
Order directly from the Runyon factory.

Stevie W
User ID: 1125704 Nov 28th 6:17 PM
Hey Bootman, I have a 901 yani and I have just put a Runyon Metal Quantum #9 with spoiler. I have been having a hard time getting it to play right with the spoiler in. I have sanded the edges slightly and placed it farther back in the mouthpiece and that did help. I guess I need to go more because the low notes are hard to play with the spoiler in. With it out they are fine but I like the added "edge" with it in for jazz band work. Got any suggestions? Thanks for your help

MojoBari
User ID: 1195644 Nov 30th 8:18 AM
Consider also sanding the Spoiler thinner. Remove a 3rd of the thickness, lower the peak of the roof of the Spoiler. I call this my "Lite" Spoiler.

Bootman
User ID: 7601343 Nov 30th 10:08 PM
StevieW,
Mojo's suggestions about sanding the spoiler down should help. You may also try a slightly more open version of your Quantum mpc. I have always preferred the spoiler out on the Quantum Bari mpcs. Try these techniques and see if it helps with your problems.

Big Nick User ID: 9133663	Nov 10th 5:03 AM Anyone got any suggestions for a mouthpiece/reed combination to go with my Yanag 900 that would give maximum volume and cutting power. I'm not interested in subtlety here, I can do that already.
super20dan User ID: 8158483	Nov 10th 7:23 AM dukoff is the brightest bari mpc i ever played
RS User ID: 1766884	Nov 10th 1:40 PM Maybe try a metal RIA with a .140" tip. And with some extra baffle (spoilers from Runyon Customs work well in RIAs) these pieces can really scream.
Bootman User ID: 7601343	Nov 10th 2:09 PM Lawton, Quantum (big tip opening) and even the Yani metals all play well. A Lamberson DD model is very good too.
Big Nick User ID: 9133663	Nov 12th 11:22 AM Thanks for the suggestions. Christmas is coming up and I needed something for my wish list. Unfortunately I don't know of anyone in the UK who stocks Lambersons. I had a Lawton for a few years ago but thought it rather bland. I tried a Dukoff a couple of months ago but couldn't get on with the shape of the tip. So I think I'll try a Quantum.
Subtone Sam User ID: 1432154	Nov 12th 5:42 PM Big Nick,what Lawton did you use on bari? I got one coming.I got one delrin Q for bari,good for R&B,especially with the spoiler but I prefer metal.
Big Nick User ID: 9133663	Nov 12th 6:28 PM Oh dear, you're asking me to use my memory. I think it was a metal 7BB. The sound was very clear and I used it in a quartet, dance band and concert band so presumably I thought it wasn't very outrageous. No one complained, anyway. Like most of these things it's all a matter of personal preference and ultimately the Lawton didn't do much for me. I think I replaced it with a Rousseau Jazz 7 which I felt had more character.
Subtone Sam User ID: 1432154	Nov 17th 9:41 AM I received one Dukoff D7 for bari couple of days ago and I think its the best mpc for bari I´ve tried yet.Its bright but not too bright,easy to play,clear sound,great mpc.I´m also looking for a more rock-type sound with bari and this mpc works very well for that purpose.
Subtone Sam User ID: 1432154	Nov 17th 4:56 PM Few corrections here: I did some comparison between Dukoff D7 and Runyon delrin Q#14 (.124) (ex-Bootman) as I got some new reeds (LaVoz med.hard). Dukoff played OK but bit ankward and thin,worked better with LaVoz mediums.Then I put LaVoz med.hard on the Quantum and the thing started to ROCK!! Great,huge sound! Big bottom end and loud! And very easy to play.I tried the spoiler but it was better without.I´ve never really liked the Q on tenor but on bari its really works great,just needs a bit harder reed. Big Nick,try one of these;I´m sure you´ll like them.
Bootman User ID: 7601343	Nov 18th 4:56 AM Sam, Glad that mpc is kicking for you. It really came to life for me with MH reeds too. No spoiler. Loud and resonant with a huge bottom end and an incredible altissimo too.
Martin User ID: 2087514	Nov 18th 5:48 AM Can't wait for the next Crowee* gig, the sound of a Conn bari at full throttle waaaay up high is sumfin else. You had to be there. Upmarket pub, Boot's band, nice girls, good visuals, good vibes, cold Aussie beer, no volume problems, and a crazy man playing bari. * Crowee...short for Crows Nest.
Big Nick User ID: 0018434	Nov 19th 11:35 AM Thanks, Subtone. Unfortunately, I'll have to wait til Christmas (What! Another mouthpiece?). But my appetite is well and truly whetted.
Big Nick User ID: 8841313	Nov 28th 3:06 PM Anyone know who in the US will do online ordering of Quantums and ship to the UK? They seem to be a lot cheaper over there.
Bootman User ID: 7601343	Nov 28th 3:31 PM Order directly from the Runyon factory.
Stevie W User ID: 1125704	Nov 28th 6:17 PM Hey Bootman, I have a 901 yani and I have just put a Runyon Metal Quantum #9 with spoiler. I have been having a hard time getting it to play right with the spoiler in. I have sanded the edges slightly and placed it farther back in the mouthpiece and that did help. I guess I need to go more because the low notes are hard to play with the spoiler in. With it out they are fine but I like the added "edge" with it in for jazz band work. Got any suggestions? Thanks for your help
MojoBari User ID: 1195644	Nov 30th 8:18 AM Consider also sanding the Spoiler thinner. Remove a 3rd of the thickness, lower the peak of the roof of the Spoiler. I call this my "Lite" Spoiler.
Bootman User ID: 7601343	Nov 30th 10:08 PM StevieW, Mojo's suggestions about sanding the spoiler down should help. You may also try a slightly more open version of your Quantum mpc. I have always preferred the spoiler out on the Quantum Bari mpcs. Try these techniques and see if it helps with your problems.